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Post by lensmanicu on Nov 16, 2010 19:51:46 GMT -5
At the time labor unions were started around 1870-1877 there was a real need for there existence. However in this day and time we have laws, government agencies etc to protect our citizens from abuse and low wages. What do they accomplish today. They drive wages up forcing our jobs to overseas markets so that our manufacturing business can afford to produce products. Not to mention they make it next to impossible to repairman the teachers that are suppose to be imparting knowledge to our children. These are my opinions and i would be interested in hearing yours.
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Post by sandraj on Dec 11, 2010 9:30:56 GMT -5
No one in my immediate family has ever been a member of a union, so I don't have personal knowledge of it. However, I do agree that they have run their course for this nation since equal opportunity has come about.
If unions are even a part of what is forcing our jobs overseas, then it needs to be abolished.
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Mike
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Post by Mike on Dec 11, 2010 15:40:30 GMT -5
I very much agree with lensmanicu.
Unions have outlived their usefulness.
About 30 years ago I was very involved in unions & was in a leadership position.
Long story short, I discovered that the upper union leadership cared more about filling their own pockets & retaining power than they cared about the people they were supposed to represent.
They had also stacked the deck so that NO segment of their membership could leave.
I resigned in disgust.
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Post by LuLu on Dec 13, 2010 18:21:32 GMT -5
The Union as I know it when I was younger. (About 18 years old I guess not for sure.) I was the first time I ever heard of it. They came to Mt. Vernon at the Babcock &Wilcox Plant B&W that was right out side of town.
Our town was a quiet river town then. Well barges came up the river and there were fights is the big thing for the daily news paper then..
The Union was to be voted in and they picketed outside the plant. During the night some people who were against the union crossed the line.. Bricks were thrown and finally they used chains. It made the papers big time here.. The Union was voted in and they prospered.. High wages were made..
Right next door was a General Electric Plant that was very young but growing. They had good paying jobs and no union. They didn't want a Union. All was happy there and stayed that way..
B&W and the Union kept going on strike for this and that.. Finally the plant just closed down. Its a huge place along the river. What a shame! Now there is something going on down there with very few people working there.
Now GE well if you come on it at night it looks like a city of its own. Lights everywhere, its huge!! For years they talked of a Union every once in awhile. Its a chemical plant now. They say its a plastic plant. I have seen where they leave their waste in the ground and nothing grows.. Well people were getting hurt and they were going to have to pay them off. Finally they sold out with out saying much to the employees..
They sold out to the Arabs. Now its called Saab. Cut back were made. People were laid off. The people that made the most money were to have to retire.
Now my neighbor work there for 20 some year in a lab. She did the same work every day. She was told she need to take a class in algebra to do her job.. The same job she had done all these years. Well she retired, its was time anyway for her. Now tell me is that stupid or what?
So would a Union have helped them or hurt them? You don't know with these foreigner. I think they are fazing out this plant anyway. Its just so big it will take time. Now B&W a Union just ruin that plant.. What a shame!!!
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