Edward Snowden

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Edward Snowden Clemency: The New York Times, The Guardian Urge Obama To Help NSA Whistleblower

www.huffingtonpost.com/

Excerpt;
The editorial boards of The New York Times and The Guardian published editorials on Wednesday, urging the Obama administration to treat Edward Snowden as a whistleblower and offer him some form of clemency.

Seven months ago, the former National Security Administration contractor stole as many as 1.7 million highly classified documents about the U.S. government's surveillance program and released the information to the press. The files revealed how the NSA forced American technology companies to reveal customer information, often without individual warrants, and how data from global phone and Internet networks was secretly intercepted.

While the release of these documents forced Snowden to flee the U.S. and move to Russia, it also alerted the American public -- and many U.S. allies -- of the government's intrusive, unethical and possibly unlawful spying efforts.

IMHO: Nothing the New York Times says has any validity! And I certainly wouldn't trust anything Obama might say about giving Snowden 'pardon'.
Snowden wouldn't last a week back in the U.S. before he conveniently disappeared, tactics of Obama and the Clintons.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Mean while back in Hawaii~~~

www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lech-641x375.jpg

[Sweeper]

Snowden delivered on a campaign promise.
Transparency.
Nobama should grant him immunity.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

***Which is [exactly the reason] Obama can't!
HE's into one sneaky thing right after another,
he still has the country bumfuzzled & bewildered!
If the 2012 campaign didn't show that ACA did.

I sincerely believe what their saying about his
objective is to rule the world-if he could he would.
(( keeping in mind it's his *backers* doing it ))
So where's that put "US" in his objectives?
= A submittable 'welfare state' =

[Wetboy]

Yeah...get everybody hooked on hand-outs.
But what happens when the hand-outs run out?

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Order of events:
Middle class = 40% but pay 90% of tax revenue.
Government spends this money as they see fit.
Detailed explanation of where the money goes:
www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=1258
Excerpt:
22% - Social Security ...which includes all cost of distributing it ( and if that cost is anything like what it cost to get ACA going and what other independent companys receive from government the cost of that could be phenomenal!)
21% - Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP
19% - defense
12% - Safety nets
7% - Benefits for Federal retirees and Veterans
6% - Interest on debt
3% - Transportation and Infrastructure
2% - Education
2% - Science and Medical research
1% - Non-security International ()
5% - all other ()
() read the article to find out*
The article doesn't mention how much waste is involved in each of the above or the administration costs percentages to implement it.

Wetboy said:
"Yeah...get everybody hooked on hand-outs.
But what happens when the hand-outs run out?
The hand-0uts come from 'tax dollars' [NOT THE GOVERNMENT]
When will the hand-0uts run out() Take a look @ our national debt & you tell me()
By 2035 there will only be 2 classes of people left in the USA...RICH & poor,
which is about the same time our economic system completely =folds=
To understand when , how, and why that is inevitably going to happen read
theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-u-s-economy-soul-crushing-total-system-failure

[Wetboy]

I believe I've read somewhere that we working peopl work from January 1 until sometime in April just to earn the money we pay in taxes.
So here we are in the first part of January and we will be slaves to the system until May. After April we as individuals have met our tax obligation. If things don't change and soon, we will be working until June or July to pay our tax obligation.

Having said that, I wonder if the politicians remember what sparked the Revolutionary War back in the early days of our nation's birth?

It seems to me that we the people have once again become subjects to an over-bearing King hell-bent on increasing the treasury of his kingdom.
Here's a thought for the governing body, quit spending money you don't have and quit paying other kingdoms billions of dollars and our kings treasury will eventually heal itself.

I'm not a paranoid prepper, but I do have a few long-guns, handguns, ammo, food, cash, and barter items.
I personally don't think the politicians will change and the result will be economic collapse, followed by governmental collapse...then anarchy.

Praise The Lord, pass the ammo, lock and load and let's rock and roll!

I have a no trespassing sign on my property that reads...
"All trespassers will be shot!"
"All survivors will be shot again!"
"Any questions?"

:-)

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Edward Snowden exposes Feinstein


Snowden accuses Senate intelligence chair of hypocrisy over CIA disclosures

NSA whistleblower accuses Dianne Feinstein of double standards, pointing out her lack of concern about widespread surveillance of ordinary citizens


Paul Lewis in Washington
theguardian.com, Tuesday 11 March 2014 13.50 EDT


Edward Snowden ‘It’s clear the CIA was trying to play ‘keep away’ with documents relevant to an investigation by their overseers in Congress, and that’s a serious constitutional concern.’

The whistleblower Edward Snowden accused the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee of double standards on Tuesday, pointing out that her outrage at evidence her staff were spied on by the CIA was not matched by concern about widespread surveillance of ordinary citizens.

Snowden, the former contractor whose disclosures to journalists revealed widespread surveillance by the National Security Agency, was responding to an explosive statement by Senator Dianne Feinstein about the CIA’s attempts to undermine a congressional investigation into interrogation and detention.

In a surprisingly combative statement on the Senate floor on Tuesday, Feinstein, who has been widely criticised by privacy experts for failing to hold the NSA to account, accused the CIA of conducting potentially unconstitutional and criminal searches on computers used by her staff.

The remarks put the Democratic senator on a collision course with the CIA’s director, John Brennan, who strongly denied “hacking” the committee’s computers. Feinstein described the controversy as “a defining moment for the oversight of our intelligence community”.

In a statement to NBC News, Snowden said: “It’s clear the CIA was trying to play ‘keep away’ with documents relevant to an investigation by their overseers in Congress, and that’s a serious constitutional concern.”

Snowden, who is in Russia on temporary asylum, added: “But it’s equally if not more concerning that we’re seeing another ‘Merkel effect,’ where an elected official does not care at all that the rights of millions of ordinary citizens are violated by our spies, but suddenly it’s a scandal when a politician finds out the same thing happens to them.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Snowden, Greenwald urge caution of wider government monitoring at Amnesty event
Reuters
By Karl Plume 18 hours ago

news.yahoo.com/snowden-greenwald-urge-caution-wider-government-monitoring-amnesty-002855883.html

"Metadata is what allows an actual enumerated understanding, a precise record of all the private activities in all of our lives. It shows our associations, our political affiliations and our actual activities.
Snowden and Greenwald said that such data is in fact more revealing than outright government spying on phone conversations and emails.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

'Citizenfour': Documentary shows Snowden reunited with dancer girlfriend in Moscow
Published time: October 11, 2014 12:01


Edward Snowden is not "skulking" in a secret Russian bunker but is living an ordinary life in Moscow with his longtime girlfriend, Lindsay Mills. “Citizenfour,” a documentary about the whistleblower, premiered Friday at the New York Film Festival.

rt.com/news/195080-snowden-girlfriend-moscow-documentary/