Welfare

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

Welfare refers to a broad discourse which may hold certain implications regarding the provision of a minimal level of wellbeing and social support for all citizens without the stigma of charity. This is termed "social solidarity". In most developed countries, welfare is largely provided by the government.
.... In the end, this term replaces "charity" as it was known for thousands of years, being the act of providing for those who temporarily or permanently could not provide for themselves.

There should be obligations, responsibilities, and they should be held accountable for both.
Suggestions in no particular order:
*all recipients should be required to have a high school education, GED or equivalent. *If not obtained in a 2 year period
welfare denied. [Special services would then takeover]
* drug tests mandatory
* on site spotchecks periodically, followed by a "review" if necessary. 'Landlords' have the right to inspect {so to speak}
* specified uses of assistance funds. No cigarettes or alcohol, no potato chips or twinkies {examples}
* Resumes' which have been signed and dated @ least once weekly by potential employers

My point is; if given obligations & responsibilities the system would be returned to the people that really need it.

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Nov 27, 2011 11:57:59 GMT -5 Hoosier Hillbilly said:

Welfare refers to a broad discourse which may hold certain implications regarding the provision of a minimal level of wellbeing and social support for all citizens without the stigma of charity. This is termed "social solidarity". In most developed countries, welfare is largely provided by the government.
.... In the end, this term replaces "charity" as it was known for thousands of years, being the act of providing for those who temporarily or permanently could not provide for themselves.

There should be obligations, responsibilities, and they should be held accountable for both.
Suggestions in no particular order:
*all recipients should be required to have a high school education, GED or equivalent. *If not obtained in a 2 year period
welfare denied. [Special services would then takeover]
* drug tests mandatory
* on site spotchecks periodically, followed by a "review" if necessary. 'Landlords' have the right to inspect {so to speak}
* specified uses of assistance funds. No cigarettes or alcohol, no potato chips or twinkies {examples}
* Resumes' which have been signed and dated @ least once weekly by potential employers

My point is; if given obligations & responsibilities the system would be returned to the people that really need it.

Welfare is no longer an assistance program.
Unfortunately many of the moochers use it as a "way-of-life" and are quite happy being basically slaves to this lifestyle, by their own hands. It takes effort to get one's self off of welfare however too many people are quite content cheating the system.

The churches of the Christian faith were charged by Christ to care for the poor and widows. The local churches would be better stewards of handing out charity in their own communities, than some governmental agency in DC, because the churches would know who truly needs assistance and those that are simply too sorry, lazy, bums, etc... to get off their asses, find employment and better their life and their families. This will never happen since this would take a revival in the hearts of the citizens, get their selves back in church and turn their faith toward God instead of the secular government they so desperately depend on for their daily needs.

Then again to gain employment many would have to shower, stay sober, pull their damned pant up above their asses and show some respect towards others as well as some much needed SELF-RESPECT.

It's much easier to simply party all night, sleep all day, and wait on the government for another check to continue the routine. If you find yourself in this situation and need a raise, hell that's easy, just pop out a few more puppies for we the people to raise.

Welfare too will soon be broke, just like the FED government. Hopefully the churches will step up and help out the needy. That is if the churches find it in their hearts to quit purchasing motor coaches and marquee signs for the front lawns of their multi-million dollar facilities. In other words...presently the Christian churches ARE NOT being good stewards of tithes and offerings received at those churches. Too many churches have become nothing more than business looking at the bottom line to see if they have more money in the bank this month than they did last month. Pastors making 6 figure salaries, while getting an automotive allowance and housing allowance and the such probably chaps God's ass too.

I think Christ told the early disciples to sell all that they owned, give it to the needy and follow Him. My, how times have changed in the last 2,000 years. I thought God NEVER CHANGED.
Think about it.

[Hoosier Hillbilly]

I don't think anyone checks on welfare fraud, if someone did I'm sure it would reach the news.
no checks & balances - what else would you expect from gov?

This is just an educated guess, but I'd say @ least 20% of welfare recipients should get either less or none.
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RESEARCH
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In the United States in 2008-09, the Social Security Administration Office of the Inspector General (2009) received 129,495 allegations of fraud and closed 8,065 cases, with 1,486 criminal prosecutions. These activities involved over US$2.9b in ‘questioned costs’; with US$23.3m in recoveries, US$2.8m in fines and a further US$25.5m in settlements, judgment and restitution orders.

How Bad Is Welfare Fraud in the USA?

Posted by spritzophrenia on January 4, 2011


What do you see when you see someone on welfare? A lazy welfare Mom living the good life, claiming more than she is entitled to? After all, we all know that welfare fraud is rampant, right? In my previous post we’ve been having good discussions trying to identify what’s wrong with the USA, and the issue of welfare fraud came up. I was curious to find out how much of a problem it is.




What I discovered is that accurate figures are hard to come by; worse, grossly inflated figures are sometimes quoted. For example, a 2003 allegation claims child care fraud was found in 69% of the investigations conducted (the original link is broken and I can’t check if anyone challenged the figure). However, the speaker was at the time the head of a collective of profit-making fraud investigators. It would be in their interests to inflate fraud figures.

I'd be glad to work for the Gov investigating welfare fraud for 10%. [[ And I'm talking about just in this county.]
I wouldn't try it on my own because of the resistance I'd recieve, probably more from the workers than the recipients. I think they're the only check & balance involved and wouldn't want to loose their cushy jobs.
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Is unemployment insurance welfare?
"I think it definitely is when it's extended for 2 years or more, regardless of the unemployment rate. Whats happening is; people are drawing unemployment, working a side job for cash. This benefits both the worker and the company 'person' he works for. No filing all the employment paper work the gov requires + paying a salary of much less than a regular employee would cost "&" nobody knows the difference.